Smith, Richard (24 of 24).  National Life Stories: Artists' Lives

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    2010-09-15, 2010-09-16, 2011-10-03, 2011-10-31, 2011-11-04, 2015-06-24

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    Interviewee's studio at Patchogue, Long Island, America; British Library, London; Richard Smith’s 2011 exhibition at Flowers, Cork Street gallery

  • Interviewees

    Smith, Richard, 1931-2016 (speaker, male)

  • Interviewers

    Courtney, Cathy, 1954- (speaker, female)

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    Part 24: [Session seven: June 24 2015] [2:15:45] RS and Gisela Capitain gallery in Cologne; painting, first shown at Green Gallery, Patsy, Maxine, LaVerne; RS’ The Rainbow Painting (1959) recently sold by this gallery. Refers to shows at Flowers gallery; mentions not having made many paintings recently. Show in Cologne including Rainbow, kites and work owned by Bernard Jacobson; RS and son Harry spent a week in Cologne. RS and Jacobson. Comments on Frieze art fair, London and New York. RS’ lessening interest in seeing art. [13:04] British galleries RS has shown/shows with; Kasmin; Gimpel (kite paintings); Flowers. RS’ show in Chicago at Young Hoffman gallery, 1970s, Donald Young, Rhona Hoffman. Sol LeWitt’s wall drawings at MoMA. Chicago. [19:00] RS’ paintings shown with Bernard Jacobson. [21:20] RS hasn’t got memories of graphics department at RCA. [21:40] RS and Cornwall, making prints, 1997; mentions birth of granddaughter, Rose; refers to making lithographs with Alan Cox in London. Mentions landscapes of Kent and Ireland and possible link with his work. [27:20] Further details visit to Ireland c 1970s, with BS and children considered living there for tax reasons. [29:30] Making prints in Cornwall; mentions TC owns one, others bought by Chelsea & Westminster Hospital. Mentions Sandra Blow, Rose Hilton. Trevor Bell. Being in Cornwall with RS’ children. Sandra Blow, her work; mentions friend, Sylvia Simon. Rose Hilton. Recent play in New York with Roger Hilton as character. Roger Hilton hitting RS; RS’ design of catalogue for him. Rose Hilton. Terry Frost. Refers to current building works in Cork Street re Flowers and other remaining galleries. Patrick Heron. Collection of Richard Brown Baker, included early RS work and work by St Ives painters. [44:35] RS and learning to drive. [47:50] RS’s visits to Cape Cod; mentions David Scherman; RS, BS honeymoon, 1964; working there. Falling out with Laurence Alloway over show at Guggenheim, Shaped Canvases, RS’ Sphinx paintings. Frequent summers at Cape Cod; [Robert] Motherwell, Helen Frankenthaler, Myron Stout; music. Mentions Agnes Martin, Edward Avedisian, Larry Poons among guests at RS’ wedding. First meeting Agnes Martin when went to visit Elsworth Kelly’s studio; gallery in Taos. [1:00:00] Mentions 2015 Tate Britain opening of Barbara Hepworth exhibition. Brief further comment on Agnes Martin re not publishing etchings made in San Francisco. [1:05:15] Robyn Denny staying in New York with RS; RS using cocaine at this time; Denny in Los Angeles. Denny’s 2015 memorial gathering at Tate Britain, RS a speaker. [1:14:05] RS’s encounter with Kasmin, 2015. First meeting Kasmin; RS’ exhibition in studio off City Road. Italian dealer, Beatrice Monti [della Corti]; Kasmin’s behavior. Showing with Kasmin. [1:22:30] Doesn’t remember Richard Morphet purchase of work, Little Finale. Morphet. [1:24:25] RS’ work, Piano, currently hanging in Tate Britain. Division between Tate Britain, Tate Modern; reputation of Tate in America. [1:26:40] Memories of Charles Carey, friend of Denny. [1:29:10] Antonioni’s visit to RS’ Bath Street studio [with Pierre Rouve rather than Pierre Restany as RS says], his films. [1:3130] No memories of exhibition, Painting and Sculpture of a Decade, 1954-64. Roddy Maude-Roxby, collector of RS’ early work; recent encounter with him. No memories of Indica gallery. [1:34:00] Lilian Somerville, British Council, RS showing in Venice Biennale. [1:35:50] Brief comment about Richard Wentworth. Mentions RS introduced Gerald Laing to Bob Indiana. [1:38:05] RS no longer owns work by other artists, sold work by Howard Hodgkin, BS sold work by Peter Blake RS owned; Blake owns work by RS. Mentions going to see performance of Gipsy with Blake during current visit to London; saw 1959 production in New York. [1:40:40] Dennis Ashbaugh RS’ heart illness, c 1997/8. RS swapping studios with Gary Hume, mentions making work for Bluebird restaurant; RS becoming ill in London. Second operation in New York; refers to visiting Jeff Koons’ studio with Bernard Jacobson. RS’ current health. [1:54:20] Forthcoming exhibition of Martin Potts’ work at Flowers in London; Potts’ four decades working for RS, his recent death. [1:58:00] RS and BS relationship now. RS still living in house with son’s family. Update on RS’ two sons, grandchildren. [2:01:30] Recent contact with TC, update on idea that RS would design new fabric. [2:03:50] RS’ inclusion in 2015 Royal Academy Summer Exhibition, refers to Michael Craig-Martin. [2:04:45] RS’ most recent drawing show at Flowers gallery; interest from director of museum in Letchworth. [2:06:20] RS work on loan to London hospital. [2:07:00] RS’ visit to Scotland, 2015, with Sylvia Simon. [2:10:50] RS’ wish to make further prints; current gallery interest in kite paintings; no longer having regular studio assistant. Current daily life. Rest of time during current visit to London; Peter Blake. Planned book on RS’ work. Brief comments on Tate’s 2015 Agnes Martin and Barbara Hepworth exhibitions. Feelings about his nationality.

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